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Post by Annie on Oct 16, 2007 14:57:54 GMT 3
It was actually 6.3 6.4 but doesn't matter  Better luck next time Marat  We are dropping down in rankings again  |
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Post by justsafin on Oct 16, 2007 14:59:06 GMT 3
Oh, Marat lost in the 1st round......how many points he is gonna lost ?
Well, I guess he is aware of that very well himself.
Really hope that he will find his game by the end of the season. Look at Moya, what an awesome comeback for a veteran.
Just don't lose confidence and keep fighting. We will be there for you always.
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Post by Dina on Oct 16, 2007 15:03:48 GMT 3
quickly just because I have no strenght anymore: he screwed every first serve of the sets(guess nervous)he played pretty good tennis but he lacked confidence! he served good, when he COULD return he returned pretty good, a couple of winner returns, and at the net: wow he was just artistic I barely remember he lost two points there! he made some good shots and screwed totally the BP he had because he stayed behind his baseline returning the balls until he put them into the net or out! (he seems to forget to get to the net at the important moments! he should have gone there more since he was REALLY successful!)and the UE were not that much!
he really missed getting through today, the guy is tough actually only when he serves maybe if he won he would have done smthg nice in Madrid especially if he'd kept that level he would've improved it throughout the week! still he didn't play for a really long time so hopefully he'll adjust himself before the end this year!
really, it's disgusting to lose when you play like he played today, damn draw!
I'm just disgusted!
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Post by yarina on Oct 16, 2007 15:11:22 GMT 3
anette, I'll only partially agree with you  I think he competed poorly - he did not look too pumped up, he gave away 2 service games and could not convert his 2 break points - but there were quite a few glimpses of how beautifully he can play... I would not accuse him of returning poorly: I followed a lot of Karlovic matches, just to see if anyone can do better against him: nobody can return well with Karlovic and the likes. To be honest, I tend to be against accepting guys of his size in the sport,(I think Haas once said that guys taller than 2m should not be allowed to play the game) because they take away the beauty of it: Karlovic cannot do much apart from hitting aces. But even his aces are not so much a proof of a beautiful serving technique - as with Sampras, Fed or Marat - but when u serve from "up a tree", you have a lot of chances to ace your opponent. I actually think marat was the more spectacular player today (I know I am biased, but there is no diversity with Karlovic!) but with this kind of lack of confidence and even interest in playing for winning the match I am really waiting for a miricle to see him back in the winners circle... He did play better today than in Cincinatti (the match against Kiefer was an absolute pain in my opinion) and Montreal for example, but did not do much to actually win his match! and it has become quite a custom for him to lose his first service games, after which he does not manage to catch up... |
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Post by davis on Oct 16, 2007 16:03:16 GMT 3
I would not accuse him of returning poorly: I followed a lot of Karlovic matches, just to see if anyone can do better against him: nobody can return well with Karlovic and the likes. To be honest, I tend to be against accepting guys of his size in the sport,(I think Haas once said that guys taller than 2m should not be allowed to play the game) because they take away the beauty of it: Karlovic cannot do much apart from hitting aces. But even his aces are not so much a proof of a beautiful serving technique - as with Sampras, Fed or Marat - but when u serve from "up a tree", you have a lot of chances to ace your opponent. Haas was kidding (!!!) when he said tall men should be banned (after his loss against John Isner to be precise). Please remember: Tennis is a sport, no beauty contest! You play to win - whether you win by acing or by playing 80+ baseline-ralleys is irrelevant. Players like Karlovic don't try to hit aces to show off their service technique - they need the advantage since (due to their size) they have huge deficits concerning their mobility and when playing low balls - they are at as much of a disadvantage at times as their opponents. And Karlovic, Isner, etc. aren't "unbreakable", which is why they also lose a lot and usually won't be found in the Top 10. So, yeah, it's not much fun to watch them but they are just doing their jobs and credit to them if they prove to be successful. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and I usually try to stay out of verbal "back-and-forths", but this paragraph just annoyed me too much to let it go - even though it has nothing to do with this thread. Sorry. Okay, I'm off for a couple of weeks. I'll leave for St. Petersburg in a few days and will fly directly to Paris afterwards to take in the last two regular weeks of this year's tennis season. I will pass on your greetings to Marat ;D "See" you all in November. |
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Post by hellanvodka on Oct 16, 2007 17:40:10 GMT 3
Karlovic - Safin 64 64 go back to Russia and make me happy in St. Petersburg, please. ;D ;D ;D Oh Marat please do so! Hopefully at least he plays in the most beautiful city on the planet,----St Petersburg (he hasn't played there for 2 years)--- plz make our beautiful Annett happy! Wish you a very happy journey Annett, if you happen to see Pushinskaya, that's the district that I was born! All the best! and Davai Marat! |
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Post by Chachou on Oct 16, 2007 18:22:09 GMT 3
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Post by justsafin on Oct 16, 2007 20:11:25 GMT 3
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JntSMPcBInUmatch video by qiqi marat looked distraught, hope it's all becuz he was too tired due to long flight ...btw, i really like Marat in black, white or red, definitely not this big bird color ........
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Post by maryb on Oct 16, 2007 22:47:31 GMT 3
Just watched the match Big Yin. 11 out of 13 points at the net! I was really impressed I have to say - well done on showing me you could actually hit some spectacular shots at the net when you think about it  Told you you could get your arse off the baseline and win points. If only you'd come in more on this match ... well, that's history. But well done on the net play. ;D I'll even ignore that racquet being thrown when you missed out on converting the break point.  Chin, and shoulders, up. Losing your serve on both opening games of the sets wasn't a smart tactical move from you though. ;D If Fedifurry lost his serve playing Karlovic, score would probably have been the same. Back to the drawing board - but don't be disheartened. If the draw had been kinder ... and don't think about ranking points either. A couple of good wins can take care of that. Concentrate on keeping your focus ... and getting that first serve in. I expect a few more tournaments with you playing doubles to get match-tight, and a lot more net play. And if I hear the 'c' word getting mentioned in your post-match interviews, I'm gonna be really, REALLY hacked off. Go home and watch the footie. And keep practicing your net play and footwork. PS Karlovic has improved other aspects of his game. There's a lot more to the guy now than just a serve - and he won in Stockholm last week remember. He wouldn't be lacking 'c'. (I think that word should be banned from the ATP tour ...) |
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Post by maryb on Oct 16, 2007 22:49:58 GMT 3
Oh, and get rid of the Big Bird outfit. It's unlucky, and gives me a headache now. You should have been 'Man in Black'. When you run around the court looking like a 6 foot 4 banana, your opponent doesn't really need to squint over the net to try and see where you're moving ... Gives them an advantage ... LMAO |
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Post by maryb on Oct 16, 2007 22:57:20 GMT 3
I'm off to watch Andy now. Hope he gets a few good wins here. |
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Post by maryb on Oct 17, 2007 0:32:24 GMT 3
Oor Andy was on fine form. Chela was out of it completely. |
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Post by yarina on Oct 17, 2007 1:17:38 GMT 3
I would not accuse him of returning poorly: I followed a lot of Karlovic matches, just to see if anyone can do better against him: nobody can return well with Karlovic and the likes. To be honest, I tend to be against accepting guys of his size in the sport,(I think Haas once said that guys taller than 2m should not be allowed to play the game) because they take away the beauty of it: Karlovic cannot do much apart from hitting aces. But even his aces are not so much a proof of a beautiful serving technique - as with Sampras, Fed or Marat - but when u serve from "up a tree", you have a lot of chances to ace your opponent. Haas was kidding (!!!) when he said tall men should be banned (after his loss against John Isner to be precise). Please remember: Tennis is a sport, no beauty contest! You play to win - whether you win by acing or by playing 80+ baseline-ralleys is irrelevant. Players like Karlovic don't try to hit aces to show off their service technique - they need the advantage since (due to their size) they have huge deficits concerning their mobility and when playing low balls - they are at as much of a disadvantage at times as their opponents. And Karlovic, Isner, etc. aren't "unbreakable", which is why they also lose a lot and usually won't be found in the Top 10. So, yeah, it's not much fun to watch them but they are just doing their jobs and credit to them if they prove to be successful. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and I usually try to stay out of verbal "back-and-forths", but this paragraph just annoyed me too much to let it go - even though it has nothing to do with this thread. Sorry. yes, I sounded quite stupid and totally not diplomatic by posting that...we are entitled to our opinions but some opinions are really better kept to oneself ;D Also, I do realize the deficiencies that tall players have, am not quite as stupid as I sometimes sound but probably just wanted to blame Marat's loss on somebody/something else. |
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Post by yarina on Oct 17, 2007 1:27:51 GMT 3
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Post by helen10 on Oct 17, 2007 1:29:32 GMT 3
Oh well. Karlovic is having a great year and is definitely proving he's beyond just being great at serving. If only Marat hadn't lost the first game - but his play at net sounds encouraging.
I was watching the video someone kindly posted of the award ceremony at the Kremlin Cup and somehow it brought home how tough the tennis life must be at times. There's DiMarat winning a doubles tournament at home in Moscow and there's about 5 people in the crowd with presumably little atmosphere (don't think Marat needed to look quite so miserable though!). They both then get up at god knows what time to get a 5 hour flight to Madrid to a tournament at which Marat knows he will have to be well pumped up to win the first match against someone who's having a great year. Silly so-and-so lost the first game and it was an uphill battle from then on.
I'm not trying to make excuses but when things aren't going your way it must be hard at times to see the bright side!
Does anyone know if he's playing St Petersburg - I was assuming he was but there's no confirmation of it.
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We are dropping down in rankings again 
Told you you could get your arse off the baseline and win points. If only you'd come in more on this match ... well, that's history. But well done on the net play. ;D I'll even ignore that racquet being thrown when you missed out on converting the break point. 