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Post by helen10 on Oct 27, 2007 1:09:07 GMT 3
In my view when Davydenko was saying he double-faulted to lose a game in the third set, he was just stating a fact, not that he was saying that deliberately did a double fault to lose the game so I don't see anything wrong in that.
I don't actually like Davydenko and I think he is at best supremely tactless (even taking his English into account) and at worst mean-spirited - I didn't see the match so can't judge but even I would say it sounds like a harsh ruling. I think all ATP eyes are on him and will get judged for the slightest perceived misdemeanour.
Lots of players have thrown a match through tiredness/disinterest or whatever (witness Marat and countless others!), match-fixing is something else. I thought betting on any Davydenko matches was suspended while investigations were pending so I
really doubt there was any pre-planning to the whole affair.
Just my opinion...!
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Post by luxsword on Oct 27, 2007 2:06:06 GMT 3
good points
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Post by Anne on Oct 28, 2007 1:00:52 GMT 3
An interesting article.. don't know what to think about this one..  From: www.theage.com.au/news/tennis/a-fine-time-for-russian-to-tire/2007/10/27/1192941402121.html NIKOLAY Davydenko is not the first player to be fined for a lack of effort in a tennis match — Marat Safin was punished for tanking against South African Grant Stafford at the 2000 Australian Open — but the timing is what is most extraordinary about the latest controversy to engulf the besieged world No. 4. Davydenko is under investigation by the ATP for his part in the infamous August match in Sopot, Poland, against Argentinian Martin Vasallo Arguello, on which $10 million worth of bets was voided after Davydenko retired in the third set. The Australian and French Open semi-finalist features five times in the dossier of 140 "suspect" matches being examined by international tennis authorities. His every move is being scrutinised more heavily than the contents of Ben Cousins' medicine cabinet. So what happens next? He throws his second-round match at the St Petersburg Open against Croatian qualifier Marin Cilic? It would be almost unbelievable if Belgian chair umpire Jean-Philippe Dercq had not just judged it to be so, and imposed a penalty of $2200. The tearful Russian was predictably shocked and outraged, protesting that "my legs were just dead by the third set". Yet if his claimed waterworks were a play for sympathy, there is little to be had. More typical was the response of the forthright Todd Woodbridge when asked by The Age a week ago whether he believed Davydenko, 26, to be "on the nose". "Well, you've got to start believing he is …" Woodbridge said. "For a guy ranked four in the world he's had more interesting losses than any of the other top four or five." Indeed. Woodbridge was also critical of the online agencies that allowed betting to continue once matches had begun. "So this is where this 'fixing' thing has come along from — 'OK, you go a set and a break up, but I'll win', and then they dump money on the odds changing … I don't know if it happens, personally, but I think there's enough indication from the players out there that they've heard of it (occurring)." The scandal now hovers over the sport like a wrecking ball, and although we must not rush to judge Davydenko until all the evidence has been examined and a ruling made — certainly any calls to exclude him from future tournaments are premature — the ATP must quickly close its inquiries into the Sopot match. As a British tennis writer wrote once news of Davydenko's alleged "lack of best effort" in St Petersburg was revealed, "the sense of unease was palpable and perturbing". Tennis is hurting; fairly or not, but perhaps Davydenko's reputation is already beyond repair. |
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Post by mackiemad on Oct 28, 2007 9:59:25 GMT 3
to be honest- i'm not sure that he did necessarily tank the match, sometimes you lose your rhythem or concentration and then tiredness or whatever set in, it happens. but i think that the ATP have been wanting to pin something on him for the last few months, as a way of saying to the greater playing body and spectaors that they are not going to be complacent about the whole match fixing saga recently. tennis as a sport has had its reputation ruined and as a major player in that and a member of the top ten in the world, kolya is -rightly or wrongly- going to take the fall along with some other lower ranked guys who have been heavily implicated in the one hundred and something matches that have been said as suspicious and under investigation-by the ATP.
i mean, the whole saga has been able to take the front page of the newspapers in melbourne at least once over the last few weeks, and considering the other sporting scandals (ben cousins thank you for falling so magnificently from grace!) taking place right now that is a serious achievement and blow for the sport... one can only imagine what the press is like in a country where tennis is a bigger deal, or in the uk where the tabloids go mad every hour of the day.
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Post by luxsword on Oct 28, 2007 12:25:17 GMT 3
i wonder why the atp people still haven't talked with davydenko yet... when are they gonna ask him the questions, and enable him to answer ?? in a couple of years ?? that seems sorta crazy, to me, to wait for months before hearing him. either they do either they don't, but to let this last for so long...
what would you think if you winessed a crime and the police asked you about it only 6 months later ? how accurate would your recollections be ?? this is stupid
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Post by helen10 on Oct 28, 2007 16:24:21 GMT 3
I think the judgement on Davydenko was based on past suspicions of match-fixing. Tanking is something that has been around for a long time and many players have been accused, and some fined, for it. Umpires/match referees or supervisors are now making an example of Davydenko whose reputation, rightly or wrongly, now looks shot. If he is innocent, I feel incredibly sorry for him. On the same subject, it looks like the Tursunov/Pashanski match at St P is now under scrutiny - see the Guardian article (for anyone who might not know, the Guardian is a quality paper with a good journalistic reputation). sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,,2200265,00.html Looks like the scrutiny is being stepped up... |
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Post by helen10 on Oct 28, 2007 16:26:27 GMT 3
Looks like the link failed - here's the article copied in...
New corruption alert in tennis after suspicious betting moves
Matt Scott
Saturday October 27, 2007
The Guardian
Anti-corruption investigators from the online betting exchange Betfair have launched an inquiry into Wednesday's St Petersburg Open match between Dmitry Tursunov and Boris Pashanski after punters cried foul over unusual market moves.
The fifth-seeded Tursunov lost to Scotland's Andy Murray, the second seed, yesterday but it was the Russian's 4-6, 6-3, 6-4 second-round win over Serbia's Pashanski that drew scrutiny. One punter states that Tursunov was continually being backed to win the match at 1.20 [Betfair's equivalent of 5-1 on] despite having lost the first set and trailing 2-0 in the second.
Betfair has declined to void the market because, according to a source close to the investigation, prices had been influenced by the actions of a single high- rolling punter, an individual well known to the exchange as a significant net loser. It is said that he had attempted to place a large bet discreetly through the organisation's brokerage team but, frustrated at delays, lumped on his stake "up front", sending prices tumbling.
However, independent punters who were observing the market believe Tursunov still had significant short-price backers. "Those in the know continued to back him at ridiculously low prices even while he was getting treatment for a lower back injury at the end of the first set," said the Betfair punter. The Association of Tennis Professionals, which has an agreement to work closely with Betfair whenever suspicious betting patterns are reported, is to investigate the data.
The ATP has a continuing investigation into the match involving Nicolay Davydenko and Martin Vassallo Arguello. Separately Davydenko was yesterday fined $2,000 (£1,000) by the ATP for "a lack of best effort" during his 1-6, 7-5, 6-1 defeat by Marin Cilic in St Petersburg on Thursday, though sources say it is not thought there were irregular betting patterns.
There has been close dialogue between Betfair and the ATP over possible match fixing since Davydenko withdrew from his second-round match against Arguello at the Poland Open in August. It is understood that the latest information will feed into that inquiry. The ATP said: "We have a memorandum of understanding with Betfair and any information we receive we will examine and investigate where appropriate." Neither Tursunov nor Pashanski could be contacted yesterday.
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Post by Annie on Oct 31, 2007 12:01:30 GMT 3
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Post by Annie on Oct 31, 2007 12:02:34 GMT 3
Kolya starts his title defense in Bercy today. Udachi Kolechka  He plays third on Court 1 ;D |
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Post by Annie on Oct 31, 2007 17:39:28 GMT 3
Defeated Del Potro 7/6 6/1 ;D DAVAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Mrs. Fabregas on Nov 1, 2007 0:56:27 GMT 3
Kolya will play Baghdatis 1st on Centre Court tomorrow!!!!!!  DAVAI KOLYA  |
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Post by susie123 on Nov 1, 2007 23:45:06 GMT 3
With Nikolay on a complete downward spiral, (he lost 62 62 to Marcos today), do you think he will still be picked for the Davis Cup final?
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Post by luxsword on Nov 10, 2007 15:54:26 GMT 3
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Post by Annie on Jan 2, 2008 1:53:56 GMT 3
Let the new season begin ;D
Qatar Exhibition Tourney
Top-seeded and World No. 4 Nikolay Davydenko dispatched German qualifier Benedikt Dorsch 6-3, 6-0 in one hour and 16 minutes. Davydenko had a 91% first serve percentage and broke Dorsch six times in 13 chances. He will face Fabrice Santoro in the second round.
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Post by Mrs. Fabregas on Jan 2, 2008 21:58:19 GMT 3
And Kolya did his duty in the 2nd round too : Won the match against Santoro, 63 63 !!!!!!! Davai Kolya, great start for 2008!!!!!! Keep it up like this  |
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