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Post by yarina on Aug 27, 2008 0:16:43 GMT 3
Thanks for the interview, Dina!
Mary, where did you watch his match - I also live in the UK and could only see the Gasquet- Haas match on eurosport; was it broadcasted on Sky? and if yes, which Sky? Thanks
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Post by justsafin on Aug 27, 2008 0:27:33 GMT 3
I agree that Haas - Gasquet was a good match - Haas was unlucky in a few important points, but inspite that he managed to prevail after all. Regarding Marat's match, I haven't seen much - but I noticed his second serve was very slow and heard about the whole foot -fault drama. I think that we have witnessed Marat gradually loosing it in the past three years....but sometimes we find it hard to admit it. We were always waiting for a miraculous comeback - and after a long and agonizing wait, it seemed that he will come back after Wimbly - where he did not excel,btw, but he did not suck at least and kept it together. I bet he is waiting as well for that magnificent come back. However, as years pass, he seems to be making more and more unsuccessful efforts: everybody says he is training hard, most probably harder than he used to do, but things are going nowhere - so he gets frustrated. Plus, he's already been in tennis for long, so it gets less and less exciting for him, and he seems to be alone - this gets to you if you have a bit of brain and can think about it. Yes, I know there might be other people in his position, but we are all unique and we all can take more or less loneliness, and repeated failed attempts. I do not know him, but I chose to believe that he is not a plain stupid guy and I also like to believe he is an emotional guy: so yes, I understand him, I guess and I want to excuse him. He's never had a model conduct, but being polite is not the only virtue a person can have - and with emotional persons you can expect such outbursts - but I still think there are other good things in him for which I support him and wish him the best. yarina!! thanx for saying something so heart-felt . For the bad conduct, I already said something in the matches discussion thread. Marat's behavior was totally inappropriate, yet understandable (to me). I can't believe the nightmare repeats again given I was there witnessing one just a month ago. Had I not met him in person, especially the off-court sweet guy,maybe, I would have been sooooo pissed with him. Being an emotional and nervous person myself as well, I am being emphatic again. I want to appreciate the time he is around- knowing it's not long........ Anyway, best of luck, big man! Hope my heartburn gets better and I can sleep a little before work. It's probably hard for many to comprehend that I actually get severe heartburn over a tennis match. already took 4 tablets...I know the theory to relax, but I just can't. I'd like to believe Marat is more or less the same type. really, it's not easy.
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Post by maryb on Aug 27, 2008 0:31:36 GMT 3
Hi Yarina - SKYSPORTS Extra. It was on the multiscreen option. The main match being broadcast was Haas v Gasquet.
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Post by Natasha on Aug 27, 2008 0:44:24 GMT 3
omg poor Dina, every question is a marat question!
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Post by maryb on Aug 27, 2008 0:46:17 GMT 3
Having seen the whole match guys, can I just say that yes, he did 'lose it a bit' over the foot fault call but it paled into insignificance compared to Cincy. I thought 'Uh oh, here we go ... ta ta match'. But, he pulled himself together in the opening game of the fifth and actually channelled that anger better. To me, THAT is progress. Normally he would have gone AWOL on court ... and invariably lost, but he didn't. In fairness to Spadea, he didn't actually play too badly so I wouldn't class him as completely mediocre. His return of serve wasn't particularly bad, and he came up with winners usually when it mattered. The Big Yin managed to keep his composure in the fifth and wrap up the match. I already said, it wasn't pretty, but so what? It's a win. He now needs to up his game, get the first serve percentage up - and stop throwing that bloody racquet around the practice courts. If he keeps it up, I'm gonna aim one at his head at Wimbles next year to see how he likes it. Robredo is a pretty up and down player as well. Here's hoping our boy is more up on the day.
I've brewed 5kg of super-strength fairy dust for Thursday. I added some Wimbledon grass as well for added kick.
Hopefully the boy will inhale deeply. He pulled out a win under circumstances that he would normally have blown. I'm happy with the result ... just want more net approaches! ;D
PS Big Serena has just blasted Bondarenko off court, 6-1 6-4.
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Post by evaki on Aug 27, 2008 0:52:40 GMT 3
Ok....that wasn't the best match ever but! I'm not pissed off, I'm actually kind of proud of Marat on this one.... I was afraid of his reactions after the foot fault calls, specially after the 2ond one which was totally unjustified! Thank god he got it back together pretty fast, started the 5th set in the most perfect way and kept it together till the end!
By the way...Now that it's over and with a win in the pocket, I'm kind of glad it was long....I'm sure he can take it physically and believe he needed it since he hasn't played in a while....
On the other hand, once more, I thought about how surprising it would be for me to see him play they way he used to again. I hate admiting that and I believe that this is part of Marat's problem...If you think of the level of play he used to have, the talent, the strength, the way to move, the creativity....that was so huge, and it is sooo hard to have THAT to compare to in your mind. No Federer, no Nadal, no noone. It's easier to say "I'm doing my best, but these guys are just better....". The problem here is that you fail a comparison to an extremely high standard set BY and FOR YOURSELF! And if it is that frustrating for us, I can only imagine how tough it must be for him to deal with that mentally. I kind of feel like he could be playing better if he could just mentally settle for less (although I understand why he doesn't, I don't think I would be able to either)...does that make sense to anyone? And I know his comments are often suggesting that he does but....somehow I don't really buy that....saying something and trying to believe it, isn't always quite the same as actually digesting and living by it....
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Post by Anne on Aug 27, 2008 0:59:09 GMT 3
Not pretty, but a win is a win as many already said. And well said Evaki. I actually agree with that one.. he has had a long match, gives him experience and also points out extra his weak points. And phisically he can manage which is kind of a must haha. I hope you can get it all together against Tommy Robredo!
A win is win. Keep that in mind! By the way.. could someone explain me how he played.. many winners? Many mistakes? weak points/strong points?
Kisses
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Post by yarina on Aug 27, 2008 1:06:19 GMT 3
Hi Yarina - SKYSPORTS Extra. It was on the multiscreen option. The main match being broadcast was Haas v Gasquet. Thanks a lot !
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Post by Dina on Aug 27, 2008 1:11:05 GMT 3
haven't read it yet, but whatever he says don't throw the stone on the messenger! lol!
Q. Did you learn something about the rules today that you didn't know before? Because a lot of people seemed to think that you haven't foot faulted, but apparently the rules say you did.
MARAT SAFIN: Okay, so first of all, the call was made on the sideline. I think it was complete (expletive). How you can see on the side, 35 meters away, foot fault like that?
Second of all, it's impossible, and it shouldn't be ‑ it's unwritten rule ‑ anybody who plays tennis in their life, in a career, it's difficult and it's almost impossible to make a foot fault on a second serve, and especially in the important moments you shouldn't call it.
If you are doing a foot fault on a second serve, first of all you need to get a warning. So basically you're making foot fault? Just watch out; next time I'm going to call you. This is how it should be.
So I don't think I'm missing some rules in tennis. I think the people in tennis are missing some rules. It's really, really disappointing on the fourth set because foot fault on the second serve and you're facing set point.
So I think I have the point here, and the people, they should, they should do something about it. I understand there are tons of people, officials are telling them about the rules.
But sorry. Who are the players? If you ask anybody in the locker room, they will tell you the same thing. It's wrong. I think the officials, they should change something, because they don't understand it.
Q. Do you think the official wanted to insert himself and impose?
MARAT SAFIN: No, because they never face the rules like this. All the players know about it. You can ask anybody. They'll tell you, First of all, they need to get a warning for that. Watch out. Listen, you are making a foot fault.
That's it. Next time, then you call a foot fault. But official who never played professional tennis, how he can decide what are the rules? I mean, this is really ‑‑ like it's really pissing me off, because it's official that never touched a racquet, and they're telling you what are the rules. This is what is...
Q. Have you had problems with that before?
MARAT SAFIN: No, I never. I started here in the states for some reason. I had the same thing in Cincinnati. Same thing in Cincinnati. For some reason ‑‑ I explain them, you should make, first of all, a warning. It's the same thing.
It's like talking to the wall, the same thing. Doesn't make any difference, so what I can do? They want me to be happy and they want me to be great in the press room, like be nice, speak nice and all these things. Why should I?
Q. Just to clarify, I mean, you're in the middle of a Grand Slam here. You have better things to do than fight this battle. Do you talk to people? I mean, what's the procedure when you have a situation like this?
MARAT SAFIN: No, I mean, a procedure, no. I have my point. I raise that had to official for ATP, and they have to think about something. It's very simple. Just give me a warning first before I'm making foot fault. First foot fault, not to call me, especially if you make a foot fault this way doesn't make any difference.
And if you're making it on sideline, what the difference makes? Doesn't help me to serve better. It's stupid rules that somebody made it in, I don't know, 1850, and now they give me the problems with these things, and it shouldn't be that way.
Q. On a happier note, were you pleased with how you came back in the fifth and put it behind?
MARAT SAFIN: Just rather to be nicer to close it than four instead of facing the fifth set and never know how it's going to end.
Plus it's windy, plus Vince is playing well, he's shooting left and right, balls are going inside the line. It's not really perfect scenario, but I put myself together and played a very good fifth set.
Q. Have you received this courtesy in the past? Have other officials warned you and said you, All right, thanks. I'll look out for it? Is this the first time someone has called it without giving you a warning ?
MARAT SAFIN: No, I never received a warning. This is the point.
Q. But you'd like to?
MARAT SAFIN: I would love to. It's not so complicated. The guy, the chair umpire, when they go with the linesman, on the back sideline, first when I start to make the foot fault, they should tell me, Listen, you're making a foot fault. Be careful. Next time I'm calling it.
Okay. So that's my problem if she gonna call it or not. I've been advised already. You can't call on a deuce and then face the set point. That's my point.
Q. Do you think the call itself should be changed?
MARAT SAFIN: Well, it's just have to be review it again. Just has to go through, Listen, guys, let's say it happened already Cincinnati; it happened here. Let's do something about it.
I'm sorry, how your guy can see with the sunglasses from 35 feet meters away on a foot fault which is probably is this foot fault on a sideline, which doesn't make any sense he calls me. Why? Why you want to do that? What for?
So if I ask him, he tell me, I don't know. He will tell you, I don't know.
Q. I was just going to ask you what did the chair umpire say to you for explanation?
MARAT SAFIN: Marat, rules are rules; Marat, Marat, you cannot put two words together unfortunately in this situation. We understand the pressure he has. He has to go by the rules.
But at least he should, you know, speak to both linesman and explain them, Listen, if he's making, first of all make the warning. Don't go straight and make him the foot fault. This is what would be normal.
But the guy is answering, These are rules. I mean, how should be just to give this answer? Speak to the linesman and explain them, Listen, if you start to making, call him the warning and then we go with foot a fault.
Q. Did you actually ask the linesman? Did you get a chance to ask him yourself how he saw the call, or did you just talk to the umpire?
MARAT SAFIN: If I ask him he doesn't even hear he's so far away. How he can see if he doesn't even hear me?
Q. Did you ever get a chance to go up to him and talk to him, the linesman himself?
MARAT SAFIN: For what? What he going to tell me? He will not speak to me and then he will say, No. Rules. Foot fault. This much. So this is the answer is you're going to get.
Q. When the call was made in Cincinnati, was it also by the same...
MARAT SAFIN: Not the same guy, thanks God. Otherwise would be...
Q. Same area of the court? Was it more of an area where...
MARAT SAFIN: No, because in Cincinnati it was more from the linesman. But it's just a little bit weird. Never happened to me. First time in my life that I'm making foot faults on my second serve, so I think it's a little bit ridiculous, because I never, ever did this.
Q. You've talked in the past year about situations where you've let your temper tear your game apart and not been able to regroup. The fact that you were able to regroup, you know, you were obviously quite upset, come back in that fifth set and regroup and take it, I mean, can you take something positive out of this?
MARAT SAFIN: Oh, first of all, I'm 28. I've been already on tour for 10 years, and I want to enjoy my tennis. I don't want to fight anybody. I don't want facing any problems on the court. I just want to enjoy.
It's not like I'm playing because I'm starving from death and I need to do something original to earn money. I want to enjoy. It's so simple. I just want to enjoy. I don't want to fight. I don't want to shout.
I just want to have a nice match, win or lose, and whatever happens to go home. That's it. I don't want to face the foot faults and all these things. So I don't have to put myself together, let's try to calm down, let's play some tennis.
The guy from Vince's side was shouting every five minutes, Come on Vince; come on Vince. Also it's annoying. (laughter.)
So you need really to concentrate on that. But unfortunately I have to. I have to do that. But I wish I could play normal tennis and enjoy my matches sometimes.
Q. Your sister was in here earlier after her win, and she talked about you actually have talked to her through the years about trying to learn from your...
MARAT SAFIN: My mistakes, yes. (laughter.)
Q. Can you just give us a couple minutes what you think of what she's done professionally so far this year in particular and maybe what her chances are?
MARAT SAFIN: I think if she will do everything opposite of what I've been doing throughout the years she will be No. 1 in the world for a long time. That's as simple as it is.
Q. As a brother, how proud of her are you?
MARAT SAFIN: Always, of course. I mean, she's doing so well, and she's very close to finish the year No. 1. She's playing well. Two tough finals in the French Open and Beijing, so I think the third one is here. She should take her chance.
It's a little too early to speak about it, but I think she deserved it. And the way she was working already this year, and the decision she made at the age of 22 for a girl, I think it's very tough one.
She made them, she's doing very well, and I think she deserved it. I think she's totally ready to win the first Grand Slam, so I think why not? I'm really proud of the way she's handling the pressure and the way she's handling herself.
I think it's ‑‑ and the way she's treating the people around her, I think it's amazing, so I'm really happy for her.
Q. Were you surprised that the referee called security to the court?
MARAT SAFIN: No, no, it wasn't for me. No, it wasn't for me, no, no, no. Thanks God we didn't get to that stage.
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Post by Natasha on Aug 27, 2008 1:14:33 GMT 3
i guess ffs are a touchy subject, he cant believe its called when it shouldnt have been.
would love to see all his reactions
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Post by SAFINNO1 on Aug 27, 2008 1:19:01 GMT 3
I sadly was one of the unfortunate people who had the chance to watch all the Marat match and must say that was one of the SHITTEST matches i have ever watched - in all honesty i kept flicking to watch Tommy and Richie match which is a whole other topic - stunning Marat and Vince had no rhythm UE after UE, Marat second serve getting spanked - it was so boring and uneventful but TBF Marat in set 2 and 3 pushed his level abit which was good and then FOOTFAULT MANIA 2 BROKE OUT A line umpire from Vince's side of the court called a foot fault as he believed Marat had stepped onto the wrong side of the court - this was a 2nd serve at deuce 4-5 set 4 - Marat was furious and shouted WHAT! and sat on his chair asking Carlos Bernard for the supervisor to come and they started speaking in Spanish and then all i heard was ****ING DICKHEAD - Marat got a violation and then lost the point and the set BUT promisingly enough he used his anger and broke Vince early on in 5th set and sealed the Match. Next up Tommy Robredo - Marat can say bye bye to Flushing Meadows if there is a repeat performance COME ON MARAT! P.S As for the Dinara Interview God - give her a break - she's made her breakthrough in the tennis world - i reckon someone from TGFR was asking her them questions - being nosy!
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Post by maryb on Aug 27, 2008 1:22:42 GMT 3
LMAO. Let it go Big Yin, let it go. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D He cracks me up. The call's done and dusted. Nothing will change. Thank God it wasn't the same guy from Cincy. He'd have ripped his head off.
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Post by maratsmaiden on Aug 27, 2008 1:23:46 GMT 3
awww... "MARAT SAFIN: I think if she will do everything opposite of what I've been doing throughout the years she will be No. 1 in the world for a long time. That's as simple as it is."
he needs to give himself a little more credit than that. I agree with him about the foot faults too. it was ridiculous, there's no way the guy saw it, even if he was 1/2" over the line (which, i dont think he was). All his career, no foot faults, suddenly, he's full of them... just too strange.
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Post by Natasha on Aug 27, 2008 1:23:51 GMT 3
hes so sweet about his sister...
what was the security question about
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Post by SAFINNO1 on Aug 27, 2008 1:32:10 GMT 3
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