hrlna7
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Post by hrlna7 on Feb 15, 2005 1:58:44 GMT 3
owh come on...andy with maria??  andy plz get back with mandy... and leave maria alone...dont disturb her!!! hahahahahahaaaa.... ;D ;D maria deserve a lot more better than andy...  |
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Post by pau on Feb 15, 2005 3:34:49 GMT 3
owh come on...andy with maria?? andy plz get back with mandy... and leave maria alone...dont disturb her!!! hahahahahahaaaa.... ;D ;D maria deserve a lot more better than andy... I can tell you don't like andy... my neither, actually. imho, he has no talent, he is just a guy who trained a lot, but he is not talented like Federer or Safin. of course girls this is just MY oppinion, remember that!!! |
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Post by Mariel on Feb 15, 2005 6:50:39 GMT 3
I support Pau's opinion. His game is based on his killing serve. Without it, he's nothing but a school boy compared with Safin or Federer (those guys DO have talent) But please, don't kill me, It's a simple opinion, it won't kill andy or take his amazing serve away...
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Post by SAFINNO1 on Feb 15, 2005 15:36:52 GMT 3
OKay i want to point out 1 thing Andy serve is only special for one thing , his speed. He has no directional abillity, his serve therefore is predictable to read. He will never be in the same league as Goran or Pete.
And for the serve with that much power he serves realtively few aces, guys like Rusedski, Saulnier out serve him and MArat.
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hrlna7
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Post by hrlna7 on Feb 15, 2005 20:04:21 GMT 3
yeaaa guys..i think he would not beat pete records...he'll retired soon (when his killing serves not working anymore) *dunt kill me * |
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Post by kasey on Feb 15, 2005 22:43:43 GMT 3
OKay i want to point out 1 thing Andy serve is only special for one thing , his speed. He has no directional abillity, his serve therefore is predictable to read. He will never be in the same league as Goran or Pete. And for the serve with that much power he serves realtively few aces, guys like Rusedski, Saulnier out serve him and MArat. You think Saulnier could outserve Roddick? |
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Post by Nimo Munz on Feb 16, 2005 0:51:35 GMT 3
Andy has the best serve in the atp right now i mean..... aces are cheap points and just gets your game over with so you can focus on breaking the other guy. It may be boring tennis but if he hits ace ace ace ace then at least he's in complete control of his own serve. Andy has game better than Hewitt but the dumb boy keeps serve and volleing against a master passer hence the horrid recent results but if he gets his shit tog with the new coach will be great to watch.
Still he doesnt have natural ability like Safin or Federer maybe he should stop thinking bout the points and just hit coz his flukes are usually the best points when he starts laying out a plan or trap the poo hit the fan!!!!
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Post by Mariel on Feb 16, 2005 3:50:39 GMT 3
yeaaa guys..i think he would not beat pete records...he'll retired soon (when his killing serves not working anymore) *dunt kill me * Soooo right Harlina!!!! |
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Post by SAFINNO1 on Feb 16, 2005 15:51:16 GMT 3
Hrln4 true he will never beat sampras record but i personally think Goran Ivansevic had trhe best serve but i wont argue with you i can accept any. NImo Munz Andy does not have the best serve in the Atp i would give it to Johannson or Safin. I think you mean the amount of Un returnables serves he gets not aces. Yes they are cheap points. So you think Andy has a better game than Hewiit? Okay who won there previous 3 meetings and has a 5-1 lead over roddick. Atleast you got one thing write he has not got the natural talent like Federer and Safin.. BTW i heard that roddick learnt his when he was mad and just lashed out at the bal  Peace. |
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Post by tall_one on Feb 16, 2005 21:55:45 GMT 3
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Post by Mariel on Feb 17, 2005 0:48:47 GMT 3
Wow. I feel some tension in the air.  It's true that Marat doesn't have the best serve, but he's got talent, and he can improve it. I would give the best serve to Johannson as saffino said, but I think that Ivan Lujubic has an excellent serve. Hewitt is 100 times better than Roddick. At least he shows some talent and charisma.Roddick only shows brutal force and... cheap points. (remember i'ts my opinion!, you don't have to agree with it!) ;D |
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Post by pau on Feb 17, 2005 2:16:00 GMT 3
ok, I agree with the cheap point, I disagree with Marat as the best serve in the atp i'll give it to Johansson too, but Marat does have a very good serve and he is talented, and yes hrlina "he'll retired when his killing serves not working anymore" and I think Hewitt has a much better game than Roddick, roddick has a game when he is serving??, remember this is just MY opinion. ;D ;D
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Post by tall_one on Feb 17, 2005 11:43:25 GMT 3
decided to grab the match stats from the atp website, keep in mind that these are only for 2005 and Marat has only played one tourney. I highlighted some of the serving stats for easy reading and also higlighted Marat, Andy, Roger & Joachim The ATP website used to have stuff like this sorted out into catagories but i'm not finding those right now so this will have to do  this is from www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/en/media/rankings/matchfacts.pdf |
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Post by sirius on Feb 17, 2005 17:33:28 GMT 3
nicki...u shd have highlighted the percentage first serves too...though marat's stat there looks kinda decent...which is nice to see really...... as opposed to say....38% |
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